HERE IS AN UPDATE Robert Krimm contacted both Steve Atkinson and myself over the weekend. Mr. Krimm says he didn't respond to our attempts to contact him because he moving. The reason he is moving, he told me, was "people are coming by my house and threatening me" When asked why people were threatening him--had had no response, only a promise to talk to our I team this week. We'll let you know what he said.

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You should have checked out the sources that gave you the information to print the story on Robert Krimm. It is suspected that one of your sources is in fact a former member who defrauded Mr. Krimm out of literally thousands of dollars, this is why his membership was deleted. He is also suspected of leaving very serious death threats with members of Mr. Krimms company. You have also tried to get a hold of Mr. Krimm but because of several death threats he has received he has had to stay out of the public eye - can you blame him?

Because Mr. Krimm was the victim of a theft of such a huge magnitude, he had to shut down his business. He has promised to pay back his members and is in the process of doing so right now. These sources of yours decided to go on a "witch hunt" before Mr. Krimm was able to begin refunds when he said that he would.

I would suggest that you consider your sources before printing such a negative story. Here is where many of your sources hang out FYI :

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93022&page=353

http://www.talkgoldsucks.info/

Anonymous

(Your sources have left many threats with supporters of Robert Krimm, this is why I will not give my name)


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Hi,

I'm just another sucker that Krimm forced to use his
payment processor (Tri-Star Money Changers) to fund with
my real money to invest in his programs. Then if there were
profits they would be paid back to my TSMC account.
Little did anyone know that our TSMC accounts would be used
to buy new homes for him and his son in Florida.
The word "premeditated" jumps right out there, doesn't it..??

Dale Martin
dale.martin@yahoo.com


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Thank you for the 2nd video on that scammer Bob Krimm. He has hurt a lot of people. Please help the FBI or the SEC .

Thank you so much,
Chrissy



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Dear Sir/Madam,
I read your article on Mr Robert Krimm with great interest.
I thank you most sincerely for bring this to the publics attention
which has been widely received and noted.
I would hope that you would pursue this story for the following reasons:
Mr Krimm is actively involved in setting up a hedge fund named
Gulf Side Financial.
Mr Krimm is using the funds that he embezzled from
Tri Star Money Changers – www.tristarmoneychangers.com to achieve this.
I submit proof regarding Mr Krimm’s intention to form a Hedge Fund:
Here is the video link as to his explanation concerning the Hedge fund to members:
http://www.runurl.com/xx.php?any
The thrust of the message in the video is that Mr Krimm and partners will
generate sufficient funds from the Hedge Fund – Gulf Side Financial to
repay members and also afford them additional investment opportunities.
A Mr Todd Heaps who runs a surf monitor leads the meeting in the video
and can be found at www.surfsitemonitor.com

At present there is also a forum where Mr Krimm’s official right hand assistant,
so to speak, is still in operation: http://www.successtalkmodsquad.com
It is our hope that Mr Krimm will not be allowed to achieve
success with his Gulf Side Financial Hedge Fund.
This would indeed add injury to insult on the part of
The many people who have suffered due to his duplicity.
I thank you for your time and trouble,

Phillipa Hill


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great story on the ponzi scheme! i would like to see more! you guys ended it up like more is coming. we want to see his waterfront home and what happens to Krimm.

thank you,

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J.W.,

Thank you for bringing the sordid world of Autosurfing to light again.
The countless victims of this particular scam are larger in nature due to they also ran a Payment Processor. Most Autosurfs do not run payment processors, they use other payment processors such as E-Gold or Alertpay.
They used the laws of averages to extend the normal life span of the Autosurfs much longer with the use of their payment processor Tri-StarMoneyChangers.com, which in combination created larger monetary losses and victims.

This is one reason why Payment Processors MUST be registered in each and every state according to Law U.S. Code Title 18 Section 1960, pertaining to Unlicensed Money Transmitters! There are other AutoSurfs / Payment Processors out there right now doing the exact same thing. They will have the exact same outcome in the end, Victims!

Mr. Simoni's story is not the only I heard like that either. I have heard hundreds of people stating the same thing. They were making money then brought friends and family members into autosurfing because, at first they were paying. All of a sudden the autosurf train ends, and it ends with money being lost.

I am diving deeper into one of the hosting companies used by Mr. Krimm.
It seems the principals of the hosting company were directly connected to another AutoSurf Scam last year that stole countless dollars from it's vicitms. I will keep you posted on this!

Thank you,

Curt Crowley
http://www.ponziscams.com/blog


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First of all Kudos to you for your interview with Robert Krimm.
I want to know if he doesn't pay all his members if you would be willing to do a follow up on him? It could possibly help thousands of us. Thanks


J R

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I have read and seen your newscast on Bob Krimm and autosurf ponzi scams. You do not have the correct information.

An advertising company run online is not necessarily a ponzi scheme. A ponzi scheme is someone who takes someones money then pays the next person with the money received by the previous person.

How an autosurf advertising company runs is: Joe Smo puts in 100$ to run his advertisment. Lets say he gets 11% for 12days. He will watch other advertisments in this company for 12 days, at the end of 12days he not only gets his original purchase back, he makes a 11% rebate on that original purchase, he would get $132 back, having made $32 on his rebate.

It is like using a newspaper. The client is paying the company to run their ad. Their ad runs and other people see it. He may get customers for his advertisment, he may not. He even gets more than from a newspaper- he gets back his original purchase price along with an added rebate.

Bob Krimm owned three such sites. I do not know if he ran his like a ponzi or not. Many or most admins do not. But it is not his autosurf companies that are the problem for when the advertisers signed up for these programs they also signed the terms that indicate you may not get any of your original purchase or rebate back, that is the risk they took.

The problem with Bob Krimm is- He had a payment processor. It was called TSMC, Tristarmoneychangers. Much like alertpay, paypal and many others. He was an online bank. And that is where the problem lies. People such as myself used TSMC for our online business as did our clients. Bob did very well allowing money into TSMC but when it came to getting our money out of TSMC it was slow and hard to get. Then he claimed he was doing an audit due to someone stealing from him, then all of a sudden all transactions stopped- he promised us our money, he deleted anyone who spoke badly about him. Then he gave us his last crying video about all this money taken from him and now he is gone! He committed fraud, larceny!!! He took our money and bought a new huge house, some say a boat, opened a hedge fund, some say he is opening another payment processor. Who knows. But- your facts are incorrect. This is not about a ponzi scheme, this is not about an autosurf site, this is about a man who pretended to be an online payment processor who took all our money and flew!!!! He will not pay us back, how can he? But- he needs to have his butt in jail, not his nice big house our money bought him!!!!

This is like when a daycare abuses a child, all of a sudden the news becomes bad daycares out there- no there are good daycares and bad people who do bad things.

Autosurf companies, online advertising companies- there are some bad people who come and run them and leave with peoples money. Then there are good companies with good people who run good businesses.

Same with payment processors. There are good ones run by good people. TSMC was a bad one run by a bad person. I hope he gets dealt with by the law but I also hope news people like you don't hurt us innocent good people out here with good honest companies!

Sincerely,
Karin Schermerhorn

JW's response to Karin

Thanks for your response. Tell me if I am missing something--is not the bottomline purpose of your industry to move websites higher up on search engine lists? I am not saying internet advertising is bogus, I am saying there is something wrong when the baseline premise of an industry is to deceive people.

Sure, people go on line zillions of times a day forlegitimate page views but this auto surf seems to be an effort to "puff up" site traffic, giving a distored view of the websites true activity. I think you are working hard to kill your golden goose.

Once web consumers figure this out, this auto serve industry will hit the wall.

As to Krimm, he did run a paypal "look a like" which crashed and burned.
But there are other elements of his business besides just the money handling end of it. You have to have a product or service to generate the money don't you?

What is the product that Krimm sells--auto surfing?

Where does the money come from?

How does that moeny "grow" into such nice profitable returns?

Where does the money come from to pay for the returns?

Not from informed advertisers -- not for puffed up activities and page views.

Why would anyone pay for inflated page views with no one actually BUYING, SELLING,
INFORMING, ENTERTAINING or any of the other products and services the internet offers.

Sorry---I cant buy into this --- its build on deception not providing customer

service or advertisers the audience they seek

jw

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